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We all have to face it at some point: the sorority stereotypes. Yes, they’re real. I’m sorry if you didn’t want to hear that, but I have to tell it the way it is. Even before coming to Northwestern, people hear about the different fraternity and sorority stereotypes. It’s an unfortunate side effect of having a school on the smaller side. News gets out quickly to all the new students about the different Greek organizations. By the time the new freshmen get here, they’ll feel like they know what’s happening in Greek life. But please do me a favor: prove them wrong.
The stereotypes are stupid and petty to say the least. We’re all conditioned to believe in the big three. I will refrain from naming specific sororities, but I’m sure you know which three I’m talking about. A girl’s letters have nothing to do with the kind of person she is. The sorority may fit their personality, but the standard cliché applies: don’t judge a book by its cover.
But, to a certain extent, all guys are guilty of stereotyping. They’re very aware of which sororities are the “hot” ones and let’s be honest: who doesn’t like having an attractive girl around them? But just because she’s in (fill in the blank) doesn’t mean she’s de facto attractive.
It’s true, a girl’s sorority will affect how a guy acts around her. He’ll be more likely to talk to her or go to her parties. He’ll use a bit of liquid courage to get a conversation going. But if that’s all he does, then take my advice: forget about him. He can’t be worth it if he’s chasing a specific sorority. Eventually he’ll just make himself look stupid with that entire sorority and you don’t want to associate with stupidity, do you?
Guys that only date from a certain sorority should have “shallow” stamped to their forehead. Maybe “ignorant” or even “naïve.” Pick your favorite word and label him that, but use it wisely. This is the only time I give you permission to label someone without getting to know him. And realistically, he’s only hurting his college experience by not branching out to different communities. So it’s his loss, not yours!
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Dear My Favorite Misses,
I’ll admit that when I arrived here at Northwestern, I was still wildly blinded by my schoolboy fantasy that all sorority chicks were essentially Carrie Underwood incarnate both in terms of looks and IQ. As much as I love Carrie with all my soul, she did make her dog the ring bearer in her wedding and forced the pure animal to lose all trace of his masculinity by dressing him in a pink tuxedo. When I saw that NU was 33% Greek, I threw rationality to the wind and imagined I’d have my pick of hundreds of the dumbest smart girls in America should I decide to discard my general preference for monogamy.
I imagined that the average conversation with a sorority member would transpire as follows: I’d say, “Hey, didn’t I just meet you.” She’d respond, “Haha, (remember that girls always say haha when they’re insecure) this is crazy.” I’d gain a little courage and say, “well, here’s my number” to which she’d slyly reply, “haha, do me maybe?”
Obviously and slightly unfortunately, this notion of sorority girls was dead wrong. You gals are really smart and generally hard to get and not all that different from your unaffiliated friends. For this reason, I think it is absurd and immature when guys only go for sorority girls and even more pathetic when guys only give the time of day to girls from certain sororities. Trust me, if a guy won’t pay attention to you only because you’re not in a top-tier sorority, that’s a dude you want to be far away from. Besides, he probably likes Dave Matthews Band and is proud of the fact that he once drank 14 Busch Lights. Tool.
If you chose not to rush and feel that you’ve had a harder time meeting guys as a result, fear not. There are plenty of great non-fraternity men out there and though we might not take you to the Kentucky Derby, we’ll take you out for a night on the town while our Greek comrades are off hazing some puny pledges. Don’t take any sass from those broads that feel privileged just because the same computer system that ruins college football placed them in a top sorority. If you are one of those girls, you are no longer allowed to read my blog until your lose your heir of entitlement. This blog is for nice girls only.
I understand that sorority stereotypes are real and have a tangible impact on the dating scene on this campus but if you can rise above that and find guys that do as well, you’ll score Northwestern’s best and brightest men. The only Greek letters that real men care about are the ones make up the word gyro.
I’d put on a pink tux for Carrie Underwood,
Mike
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Okay, I would love to say that the sorority a girl is in plays no role in my influence of her, I really would. And luckily, I can. Maybe a young sophomore me placed importance on the sorority a girl is in. I believed that the girls in the “upper tier” sororities were the ones that I should be going after, and the ones in the “lower tier” sororities were the ones I should not go after. I do not know what I thought this strategy would get me; social standing, happiness, a harem, I just don’t know. However, the wiser and more mature me can tell you that all of that is poppycock. And for those of you who don’t know what poppycock is, it means nonsense, and it is kind of a ridiculous world just like the importance of sorority standing is. Solely talking about looks, I have met some very unattractive girls in the “top tier” and I have met some absolutely stunning women in the “lower tier”. Look at any sorority or fraternity composite and you will see attractive people and unattractive people. The only thing that a sorority tells you about a girl is what sorority she is in. Don’t be stupid and think it means anything more than that.
I have a new rule I just invented. And in my opinion, which is the best opinion, it is a pretty good one. If you are going to make a decision based on a certain reason, say it out loud. If it sounds stupid, it most likely is. Example of something that sounds stupid: “Oh yeah I thought she was really cool but then I found out that people don’t think her sorority is good.” Another example of something I wish I had said aloud before I acted: “Oh man, jumping off this second floor balcony seems like a great idea” and anything with the words “How bad can it hurt?” Hint, I rolled my ankle and it can hurt really really bad. Also, if someone in the next room hears you say it out loud and takes the time to say it is stupid, I would trust his/her opinion.
I could go on about the human’s “adaptive unconscious” but I will sum it up with your first judgments are generally pretty accurate, and most other things that follow have personal weight on them. There have been girls I have really liked, but then made up reasons to convince myself that I did not like them. Don’t be like me. The only thing that you should judge a girl off of is who she is, or if she has an angry ex boyfriend who just broke out of jail. I would put personal safety first in that situation. But seriously, don’t be a dipshit and listen to social standing. The only question you should ask yourself is do you enjoy spending time with this girl.
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What up girlies? Hope you’re all having a fun spring. According to the boss, the new reader submitted question inbox is a hit, leading us to have plenty of juicy, intriguing questions to write on. This week’s question may be the pinnacle as this topic has plagued the Greek girls of Northwestern for years: Do girls’ greek life affiliation affect how guys view them?
I was fortunate enough to be walking by Kellogg when the rushies of 2012 were receiving their bids. You would’ve thought the Apocalypse was coming. Some were screaming, and the others were crying. But before you think your life is over/made, I have news for ya, it doesn’t matter to guys, at least not the guys you want to date. Why? Because sorority rush is the single most f***** up thing about greek life.
Sorority Rush in a nutshell: Turn it into a job interview, but you can’t discuss the stuff that makes up 90% of a girl’s life in college (Drinking, Partying, and Sex). How is anyone supposed to make an accurate judgment based on this process? Trick question, you can’t. Why do you girls want to make it so hard on yourselves? The same goes with Crush Parties. The whole point of those is to invite some guy you want to hook up with, but instead of a girl just asking me, I get an ANONYMOUS evite. Now it becomes a wild goose chase because I have no idea who deemed me worthy of attending their crush party. I know most girls text the guys they crushed to give them a heads up, but that didn’t happen to me on two occasions, therefore leaving me clueless as to who had it hot for me.
There is one thing that guy’s will look for based on what sorority a girl is in, how b*tchy is she? Like guys in top frats, girls in top sororities have a greater tendency to get arrogant. It’s basic human nature, if someone has been deemed the best, it gets harder to stay humble. But that doesn’t mean I going to put up with it. And some guys do only date girls in certain sororities; those guys are also douche bags. That means they’re partially dating a girl to hold up their image. If some guy won’t date you because of the sorority you’re in, he’s only saving you time because he’s not the kind of guy you want to be dating anyway.
Hope this helps calm some turmoil. To sum it up, if I’m attracted to a girl, and she’s fun to hang out with, I couldn’t care less what house she’s in. I date a girl for the girl, not to better my image.
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