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Are Guys Intimidated by Success? Why the Girl Who Has Everything Doesn't Have a Boyfriend
You're at the holiday dinner table when the dreaded question drops. “So, have you met any nice boys lately?” Grandma asks, reaching for the potatoes. When you admit that you aren't currently dating anyone, she cries, “But you're so smart! Why don't you have a boyfriend?”
Good question, Grandma. It makes sense that girls who juggle a full course load, an internship or job, a host of clubs and activities, and a vibrant social life would be the most attractive to guys, doesn't it? Wouldn't a guy want a girl who's smart, passionate, and well-rounded? The answer turns out that maybe they don't.
During last night's gossip session with my friend Tara, she commented, “The reason Mason [her crush] doesn't think of me of as anything more than a friend is probably because he thinks I have my whole life together when he doesn't.” Tara is an incredibly bright, career-driven business major with high grades and an impressive resumé. She's also gorgeous, easy to talk to, and has a great sense of humor – in other words, she's a great catch. So, why is she – and so many other great catches just like her – out of luck?
Are college guys intimidated by successful, smart, career-driven girls?
Her Campus turned to Patrick Wanis, Ph.D, an expert on human behavior and relationships, to gain insight on what's going through those crazy guys' heads when they let you smart, sexy, savvy girls slip away. Are guys intimidated by successful, smart, career-driven girls? “Unfortunately, they are,” he says. “Men are intimidated by intelligent, successful, and powerful women. They might be initially impressed, but ultimately, the relationship leaves them feeling powerless and emasculated.” Yikes.
Tara learned this lesson the hard way. “Mason likes the idea of a stereotypical girly-girl who's flirty and [sexually] easy because it makes him feel more masculine. It's an ego boost when these girls fawn over him and throw themselves at him. I don't do that,” she says.
Georgia College & State University sophomore Lindsay saw firsthand how easily guys can be intimidated by girls. “I once went on a date and the guy asked me about my career goals in life. After I told him he actually verbalized that I was intimidating. I am as sweet and gentle as they come, but I feel as though my driven work ethic repels guys,” she laments.
The same notion holds true even for platonic relationships. Becca, a sophomore at Yale, says, “When I got into Yale, some of my guy high school friends actually told me, 'You're too good for us now,' even though they had known me for years.” Harsh? Absolutely. But uncommon? Far from it.
“What about all my accomplishments?”
For girls who succeed in every other area of life, it can be frustrating to understand why they might be unlucky in love. Dating coach Evan Marc Katz might have the answer.
“What never occurs to women is that they're being evaluated on far more than their most 'impressive' traits,” he writes on his blog. “The flip side of being bright is being opinionated... The flip side of being entrepreneurial is being a workaholic.” In other words, the same traits that help you succeed in academics or a career can actually hurt your romantic success.
Next comes the sticky conundrum that the traits that matter to you might not matter as much to guys. Your business savvy and professionalism are great when you're trying to nail an internship interview, but potential suitors might not find those characteristics as appealing. “Men do value intelligence, but they also want from their girlfriend what they can't get from their business associates – warmth, affection, nurturing, thoughtfulness,” Katz says.
About the Author
Biography
Originally from Boston, Hannah is now a freshman at New York University and loving life in the big city. She spends her days studying, writing, and spending too much money in coffee shops in Greenwich Village. Her favorite things include traveling, yoga, leopard print shoes, Frank Sinatra, and her little sister Julia. Hannah was Her Campus's first editorial intern in Summer 2010 and has since continued her involvement with HC as the High School Editor. She also writes for Washington Square News, blogs at Mademoiselle Hannah, and tweets from @hannahorens.

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Comments
What I got from this "article":
Don't be someone who can't talk about anything but work or school. Have a life outside of work/school, show your personality, don't be embarrassed of your nerdy hobbies/interests, be real...
Then there's the whole thing about how she still should let her man be masculine, though. No, that doesn't mean be submissive and act like you can't help yourself. I believe guys would rather be with strong, intelligent women than hopelessly dainty & ditzy women. But you should still establish a balance so he can treat you like a lady instead of acting like you don't need any guy because your sooo independent all the time. Let him pay the bill sometimes, even though you know you can pay it yourself. Are you dumbing yourself down by doing this? Certainly not. He knows you can take care of yourself (and that you most likely can take care of him. But he wants to be able to take care of you, too. You just have to let him have a chance to do so once in awhile, which is what I the article really tried to mean about the whole let him be masculine thing. It's more about creating a good balance.
Oh, reading Steve Harvey's "Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man" is helpful, too.
My contention is to understand that men need to feel needed, and yes, they feel threatened by a woman who is so successful and independent that she does not need him. And again, I clearly said that "A woman should never dumb herself down" and that she cannot be tough, cold, or business-like in a romantic relationship/partnership because it won't succeed, she won't be happy, she won't be fulfilled and she won't respect her weak man. Whether or not that matches one's wishes or ideals is irrelevant; beware of confusing the desire to be right with the reality of being happy.
One person commented here: "There's a difference between allowing your partner to take the lead in turns and demanding that women always be the vulnerable one in the relationship....But Wanis does not deserve his doctorate if he's reading that to mean that a woman must be emotional and vulnerable in order to be attractive." I never stated nor demanded that "women always be the vulnerable one in the relationship." Having said that, love and intimacy can never be experienced by either partner (male or female) without vulnerability. Without emotional vulnerability, the relationship becomes a business partnership or contract and never a romantic partnership. The only way people can bond is via emotional experiences and this cannot occur without vulnerability.
With regards to claims that my approach or that of Evan Katz is sexist, we need to be clear about what sexism is:
Sexism involves hatred of, or prejudice towards a gender as a whole or the blind application of gender stereotypes. Sexism is often associated with gender-supremacy arguments.
Nowhere do I claim that one gender is superior to another but by refusing to see, accept and appreciate the gender differences, needs and characteristics, you are devaluing both genders.
And for the women that believe there should not be any form of gender roles or stereotypes, then consider if you would be happy in a relationship with a man who has no ambition, is less intelligent than you, less successful than you. less educated than you or not educated at all, and is happy to stay at home to raise the children while you work to provide for the family. One of my clients did that for almost 3 years until her resentment of her husband led her to throw him out - even though, that was the way she had established the relationship.
Women are gaining much more power than men. Read my two articles below.
http://patrickwanis.com/blog/index.php/women-are-taking-over/
http://patrickwanis.com/blog/index.php/how-stupid-are-men/
Women are becoming more educated than men, they make up 85% of all consumer purchases, and there are numerous women leading nations - Germany, Australia, Argentina and Iceland. Meanwhile, men are now being stereotyped as a stupid idiot – inept, bumbling and clearly inferior to women. Female empowerment does not arise out of a feeling of superiority. Nor has the result been positive for men, women or relationships with the CDC reporting that more women are becoming increasingly depressed than men. Movies like SATC 2 and celebrities such as Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian are classic examples of the woman who now focuses only on satisfying her own desires, amassing riches and wealth, becoming extremely successful and independent but unable to form meaningful relationships and ultimately feeling unfulfilled.
David M. Buss is a professor of psychology at The University of Texas at Austin, known for his evolutionary psychology research on human sex differences in mate selection; he has written “The Evolution Of Desire: Strategies Of Human Mating”, “Dangerous Passion: Why Jealousy Is As Necessary As Love and Sex” and “Why Women Have Sex: Understanding Sexual Motivations from Adventure to Revenge”. Professor Buss says studies of women’s mating criteria consistently show that intelligence is valued by women: “Women are indeed attracted to intelligent men, and in fact marry men on average 4 IQ points higher than their own.”
Anthropologist April Gorry, a social scientist at the University of California at Santa Barbara, in her thesis (1999) studied women who had affairs with men in Belize. She noted that modern women were attracted to the competent, strong men, rather than the token man – “the drones and eunuchs found in the Western workplace” (a phrase given to Western men by Jeanette Belliveau – author of “Romance on the Road.”)
Dr. Gorry also revealed that women were highly attracted to men who displayed mastery over their environment – in stark contrast to the Western TV commercials that feature men who have no mastery whatsoever over their environment (household.)
April Gorry also analyzed the character traits of the heroes of 45 highly successful romance novels, written by and for women, and she found that:
45 of the 45 heroes were muscular, 44 handsome, 42 strong, 35 large, 40 sexually bold, 39 calm, 39 confident and 38 were described as explicitly intelligent. Not one hero was described as unintelligent.
One person commented here on this site: "You should strike a balance that works in your relationship, which does not necessarily need to conform to socially constructed gender roles." And so, before stating what you believe to be sexist or stereotypical of genders, consider which romance and fantasy movies you watch and to which roles for women you aspire. Do you dream of the fantasy wedding - a la The Royals or the Kardashians? Who has created, is responsible for and supports these "socially constructed gender roles"?
And I do agree, that balance is always the answer - and a balance between ideals and reality - between being right and being happy. Consider your own parents relationship and what worked and what didn't work.
Finally, may I humbly suggest you speak with older, independent successful women who are struggling to find romance, the right partner and a successful relationship; wisdom can be gleaned from their experiences.
Patrick
My contention is to understand that men need to feel needed, and yes, they feel threatened by a woman who is so successful and independent that she does not need him. And again, I clearly said that "A woman should never dumb herself down" and that she cannot be tough, cold, or business-like in a romantic relationship/partnership because it won't succeed, she won't be happy, she won't be fulfilled and she won't respect her weak man. Whether or not that matches one's wishes or ideals is irrelevant; beware of confusing the desire to be right with the reality of being happy.
One person commented here: "There's a difference between allowing your partner to take the lead in turns and demanding that women always be the vulnerable one in the relationship....But Wanis does not deserve his doctorate if he's reading that to mean that a woman must be emotional and vulnerable in order to be attractive." I never stated nor demanded that "women always be the vulnerable one in the relationship." Having said that, love and intimacy can never be experienced by either partner (male or female) without vulnerability. Without emotional vulnerability, the relationship becomes a business partnership or contract and never a romantic partnership. The only way people can bond is via emotional experiences and this cannot occur without vulnerability.
With regards to claims that my approach or that of Evan Katz is sexist, we need to be clear about what sexism is:
Sexism involves hatred of, or prejudice towards a gender as a whole or the blind application of gender stereotypes. Sexism is often associated with gender-supremacy arguments.
Nowhere do I claim that one gender is superior to another but by refusing to see, accept and appreciate the gender differences, needs and characteristics, you are devaluing both genders.
And for the women that believe there should not be any form of gender roles or stereotypes, then consider if you would be happy in a relationship with a man who has no ambition, is less intelligent than you, less successful than you. less educated than you or not educated at all, and is happy to stay at home to raise the children while you work to provide for the family. One of my clients did that for almost 3 years until her resentment of her husband led her to throw him out - even though, that was the way she had established the relationship.
Women are gaining much more power than men. Read my two articles below.
http://patrickwanis.com/blog/index.php/women-are-taking-over/
http://patrickwanis.com/blog/index.php/how-stupid-are-men/
Women are becoming more educated than men, they make up 85% of all consumer purchases, and there are numerous women leading nations - Germany, Australia, Argentina and Iceland. Meanwhile, men are now being stereotyped as a stupid idiot – inept, bumbling and clearly inferior to women. Female empowerment does not arise out of a feeling of superiority. Nor has the result been positive for men, women or relationships with the CDC reporting that more women are depressed than men. Movies like SATC 2 and celebrities such as Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian are classic examples of the woman who now focuses only satisfying her own desires,, amassing riches and wealth, becoming extremely successful and independent but unable to form meaningful relationships and ultimately feeling unfulfilled.
David M. Buss is a professor of psychology at The University of Texas at Austin, known for his evolutionary psychology research on human sex differences in mate selection; he has written “The Evolution Of Desire: Strategies Of Human Mating”, “Dangerous Passion: Why Jealousy Is As Necessary As Love and Sex” and “Why Women Have Sex: Understanding Sexual Motivations from Adventure to Revenge”. Professor Buss says studies of women’s mating criteria consistently show that intelligence is valued by women: “Women are indeed attracted to intelligent men, and in fact marry men on average 4 IQ points higher than their own.”
Anthropologist April Gorry, a social scientist at the University of California at Santa Barbara, in her thesis (1999) studied women who had affairs with men in Belize. She noted that modern women were attracted to the competent, strong men, rather than the token man – “the drones and eunuchs found in the Western workplace” (a phrase given to Western men by Jeanette Belliveau – author of “Romance on the Road.”)
Dr. Gorry also revealed that women were highly attracted to men who displayed mastery over their environment – in stark contrast to the Western TV commercials that feature men who have no mastery whatsoever over their environment (household.)
April Gorry also analyzed the character traits of the heroes of 45 highly successful romance novels, written by and for women, and she found that:
45 of the 45 heroes were muscular, 44 handsome, 42 strong, 35 large, 40 sexually bold, 39 calm, 39 confident and 38 were described as explicitly intelligent. Not one hero was described as unintelligent.
One person commented here on this site: "You should strike a balance that works in your relationship, which does not necessarily need to conform to socially constructed gender roles." And so, before stating what you believe to be sexist or stereotypical of genders, consider which romance and fantasy movies you watch and to which roles for women you aspire. Do you dream of the fantasy wedding - a la The Royals or the Kardashians? Who has created, is responsible for and supports these "socially constructed gender roles"?
And I do agree, that balance is always the answer - and a balance between ideals and reality - between being right and being happy. Consider your own parents relationship and what worked and what didn't work.
Finally, may I humbly suggest you speak with older, independent successful women who are struggling to find romance, the right partner and a successful relationship; wisdom can be gleaned from their experiences.
Patrick
“A woman should never dumb herself down,” says Wanis, “but she should allow the man to feel masculine, and that means letting him occasionally take the lead. I'm not saying you should allow him to control you or that you should be perpetually submissive, but sometimes, you should let the man be a man.”
I'm appalled that this is message you're sending to young women. You should strike a balance that works in your relationship, which does not necessarily need to conform to socially constructed gender roles. This traditional view of masculinity is extremely harmful to ending sexism.
I really think you need to interview someone other than Wanis. There's a difference between allowing your partner to take the lead in turns and demanding that women always be the vulnerable one in the relationship. A relationship should be a team; naturally it is not going to be successful when one person is constantly overpowering the other person. But Wanis does not deserve his doctorate if he's reading that to mean that a woman must be emotional and vulnerable in order to be attractive. It makes me sad that this is the message HerCampus is sending to readers. Women should not be made to feel that they must compromise their personalities to be in a relationship.
You must not realize that the aim of this article is explain WHY successful women have a harder time getting "noticed." No one is telling women to dumb themselves down. What they are saying is that if you don't, you will inevitably have a harder time finding someone that is up to snuff; it's not saying that it's wrong to be successful, just that it's harder to find someone when you are. Which is sad, but honestly kind of a reality. I liked the article, it was well-written too.
You seem like a smart one, so pause for a second to consider that the only people who seem to say that intelligent, successful women have a hard time dating aren't exactly successful women themselves, most of them appear to be bitter old evo-psych dudes with major chips on their shoulders, college students who's notions of dating come more from chick flicks and pulp lit and other pieces of work.
It follows that their interests are more invested in enforcing their viewpoints than actually making a fair analysis. Whatever.
In my experience, the nugget of truth in this article is that you don't attract many men with your 'business' attitude, and this makes dating in professional circles and school awkward and unattainable, but that's quite alright because there's the whole rest of the world to find dates.
I find that if you are a well rounded person capable of a full range of human emotions, if you can approach that world with a positive attitude, which may be occasionally accentuated with that awesome rush of good feelings that comes with successfully completing a difficult challenge, it's a little like that one famous song.
It might interest you to know that a college educations among women and men are both positively correlated to higher rates of marriage and lower rates of divorce.
If some people would like to claim that life isn't sweet when you're an intelligent professional woman, I suppose they can, also long as they're not attempting to discourage other girls from following their own success.
If the article is a "WHY" article, it doesn't fairly explain why. It still places the blame on women and pins it on them to choose between success and a relationship. The ultimate conclusion is that you can't have both. Which only furthers men who read its belief in the stereotypes as well as women's.
It's telling girls don't run around bragging about your success and grades because that makes you unattractive. I highly doubt the majority of successful women are doing this. The issue here isn't the woman's success. It's her social skills of how not to be an awful person. Successful women know better than this already. Otherwise they're probably not very successful. Instead of saying, "Look we have awful gender stereotypes in our society that most men don't want to own up to still being affected by," the article is saying don't fight the stereotypes. Just lie and act like a small girl instead of the strong woman you are. Because men can't handle you being anything more than that.
Claiming this article is doing anything but telling women to dumb themselves down is laughable. If a young girl reads this, the ultimate take away is "I can be successful OR I can have love." The article makes it sound pretty impossible to have both. Which leaves the conclusion, I should dumb myself down to get a guy to like me.
If this was really an article on WHY the phenomenon is happening they'd have to do some legitimate research. This is clearly a "how to get a boyfriend" article that offends and degrades the women it's trying to raise up. I have yet to see a successful woman read it who is not enraged, depressed and ashamed of it.
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